Post by fastwalker on Dec 7, 2005 9:20:30 GMT -5
I’m not a shrink, nor do I play one on TV. However, life experiences has, with regards to understanding people, leads me to the following reasons why people actually bash, are negative.
I assume that the same premise is applicable to why people bash a revoked penny stock.
I see many several reasons, but what I have stated here are consistent with my thoughts. Keep in mind, these are merely my own opinion, so take them for what they are worth......lol
I remember from college Psych classes when our discussions turned to cognitive therapy, which simply stated that somewhere in childhood the depressed-to-be person develops a negative view of the self, the world, and the future....
"I'm no good," "the world ain't fair," and "it won't work out." Each of these negative views gets expanded into detailed beliefs: "I'm dumb," "I can't talk intelligently," "I'm ugly too" and on and on. These negative assumptions seem to be held on a very primitive level; facts don't influence these beliefs, so they never get questioned or tested against reality.
The development of self-critical beliefs at an early age, so we can assume these negative views just lie dormant even while more rational evaluations of self, world, and future may also be developed and used as we mature into adults. Then later in life, when the self is hit with some serious loss or stress, often one that reminds us of a loss or trauma at an early age, the old unreasonable and destructive negative ideas suddenly take over and dominate our thinking. It is our negative ideas that produce our depression, not the stressful triggering event that produces our depression.
The deeper the depression, the more the negative ideas replace rational thinking. Under the influence of this primitive, negative thinking, our logic fails us. For example, we jump to conclusions, look at only one detail and disregard the big picture, over generalization from one’s experience, magnify our faults and minimize our achievements, and take the blame. All of this adds a very dark and gloomy shadow over our mental life.
Research has confirmed that sad-prone people notice the negative aspects of an event (they remember their goofs--but not other peoples'--and overlook what they did right) and assume too much of the responsibility when things go wrong.
It has also been experimentally demonstrated that thoughts can influence feelings and behavior. Therefore, it isn't just the depressing event that makes us sad but also every time we remember and fantasize about the disappointing event in the past or imagine a similar thing happening in the future, we create a more and more depressive mood. Remember, though, negative cognition clearly accompanies depression but it has not been proven that negative thinking is the exclusive cause of depression; other factors may be involved in causing depression.
It was also my understanding that cognitive therapists collaborate with their patient to get him/her to investigate the relationship between his/her negative ideas and his/her feelings of depression or actions. So, the therapist may ask the patient to "investigate" whether or not he/she can start taking tennis lessons. If he can, that is a little evidence against his belief that he/she can't change anything.
This is a good approach, one that we each should strive to teach ourselves, especially in this dark time. We should learn how to identify automatic negative thoughts that are being posted, which I see has preceding the general negative feelings on the boards.
First thing to do would be to refrain from attacking the bashers irrational ideas as being wrong. Why? Because in doing so, you escalate and manifest your on frustration, doubt and fears.
You can only succeed in stabilizing your emotions within an acceptable level on a given matter, when you can logically test the validity of the bashers thoughts, with regards to the basher’s underlying logic and assumptions that have lead them to their conclusions. Only then can you address whether or not they merit your consideration, or actually really worth your time and effort as being part of your belief system on a given subject.
In the 1st century A.D., Epictetus, a Greek teacher enslaved in Rome, said,
"Men are not disturbed by things (that happen to us), but by the views which they take of those events."
fw
I assume that the same premise is applicable to why people bash a revoked penny stock.
I see many several reasons, but what I have stated here are consistent with my thoughts. Keep in mind, these are merely my own opinion, so take them for what they are worth......lol
I remember from college Psych classes when our discussions turned to cognitive therapy, which simply stated that somewhere in childhood the depressed-to-be person develops a negative view of the self, the world, and the future....
"I'm no good," "the world ain't fair," and "it won't work out." Each of these negative views gets expanded into detailed beliefs: "I'm dumb," "I can't talk intelligently," "I'm ugly too" and on and on. These negative assumptions seem to be held on a very primitive level; facts don't influence these beliefs, so they never get questioned or tested against reality.
The development of self-critical beliefs at an early age, so we can assume these negative views just lie dormant even while more rational evaluations of self, world, and future may also be developed and used as we mature into adults. Then later in life, when the self is hit with some serious loss or stress, often one that reminds us of a loss or trauma at an early age, the old unreasonable and destructive negative ideas suddenly take over and dominate our thinking. It is our negative ideas that produce our depression, not the stressful triggering event that produces our depression.
The deeper the depression, the more the negative ideas replace rational thinking. Under the influence of this primitive, negative thinking, our logic fails us. For example, we jump to conclusions, look at only one detail and disregard the big picture, over generalization from one’s experience, magnify our faults and minimize our achievements, and take the blame. All of this adds a very dark and gloomy shadow over our mental life.
Research has confirmed that sad-prone people notice the negative aspects of an event (they remember their goofs--but not other peoples'--and overlook what they did right) and assume too much of the responsibility when things go wrong.
It has also been experimentally demonstrated that thoughts can influence feelings and behavior. Therefore, it isn't just the depressing event that makes us sad but also every time we remember and fantasize about the disappointing event in the past or imagine a similar thing happening in the future, we create a more and more depressive mood. Remember, though, negative cognition clearly accompanies depression but it has not been proven that negative thinking is the exclusive cause of depression; other factors may be involved in causing depression.
It was also my understanding that cognitive therapists collaborate with their patient to get him/her to investigate the relationship between his/her negative ideas and his/her feelings of depression or actions. So, the therapist may ask the patient to "investigate" whether or not he/she can start taking tennis lessons. If he can, that is a little evidence against his belief that he/she can't change anything.
This is a good approach, one that we each should strive to teach ourselves, especially in this dark time. We should learn how to identify automatic negative thoughts that are being posted, which I see has preceding the general negative feelings on the boards.
First thing to do would be to refrain from attacking the bashers irrational ideas as being wrong. Why? Because in doing so, you escalate and manifest your on frustration, doubt and fears.
You can only succeed in stabilizing your emotions within an acceptable level on a given matter, when you can logically test the validity of the bashers thoughts, with regards to the basher’s underlying logic and assumptions that have lead them to their conclusions. Only then can you address whether or not they merit your consideration, or actually really worth your time and effort as being part of your belief system on a given subject.
In the 1st century A.D., Epictetus, a Greek teacher enslaved in Rome, said,
"Men are not disturbed by things (that happen to us), but by the views which they take of those events."
fw